WEBVTT NOTE This file was generated by Descript 00:00:01.760 --> 00:00:04.310 Daryl Cagle: Hi, I'm Daryl Cagle and this is the Caglecast where 00:00:04.310 --> 00:00:06.170 we're all about political cartoons. 00:00:06.170 --> 00:00:10.319 And we have, three fantastic artists to join us today. 00:00:10.719 --> 00:00:14.290 Milt Priggee, Ed Wexler and Hajo de Reijger. 00:00:14.309 --> 00:00:15.840 Gentlemen, thank you for being here. 00:00:15.875 --> 00:00:17.310 Hajo de Reijger: Thank you. 00:00:17.310 --> 00:00:17.311 Thank you. 00:00:17.317 --> 00:00:17.907 Nice to be Here.. 00:00:17.907 --> 00:00:21.756 Daryl Cagle: So gentlemen, we have a show in Saint Just le Martel, the big 00:00:22.016 --> 00:00:23.866 editorial cartoonist convention this year. 00:00:23.866 --> 00:00:27.136 And I invited all you guys here cause you are Saint Just veterans. 00:00:27.156 --> 00:00:31.626 And, we can talk about our exhibition, which we will be showing you today about 00:00:31.666 --> 00:00:34.430 the, uh, American presidential election. 00:00:34.430 --> 00:00:36.520 , Ed, we'll start with you here. 00:00:36.520 --> 00:00:38.850 You've got Kamala spanking Trump. 00:00:38.860 --> 00:00:40.757 That's how the debate went. 00:00:40.838 --> 00:00:41.608 Ed Wexler: She spanked him. 00:00:41.656 --> 00:00:47.831 Yeah. 00:00:47.832 --> 00:00:52.002 And then he, uh, he says, I won the debate, I was the winner. 00:00:54.682 --> 00:00:55.031 Milt Priggee: Love it. 00:00:55.031 --> 00:00:56.482 Hajo de Reijger: Oh, crazy. 00:00:56.572 --> 00:01:00.441 Daryl Cagle: So Ed, you are an Emmy nominated creative director at Disney 00:01:00.441 --> 00:01:01.802 Television Animation for 30 years. 00:01:01.832 --> 00:01:05.392 30 years and you're also a regular cartoonist and illustrator for U. 00:01:05.392 --> 00:01:05.532 S. 00:01:05.532 --> 00:01:08.402 News and World Report, and you've drawn covers for the Hollywood Reporter's 00:01:08.422 --> 00:01:10.222 Emmy and Academy Awards issues. 00:01:10.222 --> 00:01:13.721 And we did a recent podcast showing your illustration work. 00:01:13.732 --> 00:01:15.525 And, nice to have you back. 00:01:15.552 --> 00:01:15.972 Thank you. 00:01:16.048 --> 00:01:19.978 here's Trump and he's sitting there and he says, I'm not afraid to debate Kamala. 00:01:19.998 --> 00:01:23.318 And he sits up and you can see that he just laid an egg 00:01:23.338 --> 00:01:24.718 because he's a big chicken. 00:01:28.698 --> 00:01:33.355 Ed Wexler: I played with wanting to show him as a chicken, but I think every other 00:01:33.435 --> 00:01:35.391 cartoonist around the world did that. 00:01:35.458 --> 00:01:38.841 Daryl Cagle: I think he's just kind of, being wise, because 00:01:38.851 --> 00:01:40.091 it's not in his best interest. 00:01:40.991 --> 00:01:42.631 Ed Wexler: He understands he's outclassed. 00:01:42.991 --> 00:01:43.361 Daryl Cagle: Yeah. 00:01:43.528 --> 00:01:45.448 Running from Kamala's shoe. 00:01:45.448 --> 00:01:48.908 Hajo de Reijger: I love his hair. 00:01:48.945 --> 00:01:50.845 Looked like a little croissant on his head. 00:01:54.005 --> 00:01:54.975 Daryl Cagle: That's great for Saint 00:01:57.235 --> 00:01:58.395 And here you have J. 00:01:58.395 --> 00:01:58.575 D. 00:01:58.575 --> 00:02:00.815 Vance, tell us about this couch thing. 00:02:00.858 --> 00:02:03.358 Ed Wexler: Well, you see, he's sexually attracted to couches. 00:02:03.395 --> 00:02:03.975 so, uh, 00:02:04.431 --> 00:02:07.568 Daryl Cagle: if it's a particularly nice looking love seat. 00:02:07.592 --> 00:02:09.242 Ed Wexler: Well, that's kind of a nice couch. 00:02:09.242 --> 00:02:13.232 It's got nice sensuous shapes and, yeah, so it's, uh, instead of Playboy, it's 00:02:13.972 --> 00:02:16.542 Daryl Cagle: you know, there's been a lot of talk about him wearing 00:02:16.542 --> 00:02:21.068 eyeliner and a lot of the cartoonists are drawing him with, mascara. 00:02:21.158 --> 00:02:22.808 Ed Wexler: Is that, do you think that's true? 00:02:22.848 --> 00:02:26.708 Cause I'm not sure it's just, he just has a lot of dark eyelashes. 00:02:26.708 --> 00:02:27.742 Do you think it's makeup? 00:02:29.097 --> 00:02:29.337 Daryl Cagle: I'm not sure. 00:02:29.907 --> 00:02:31.177 I thought it was. 00:02:31.177 --> 00:02:32.087 What do you guys think? 00:02:32.087 --> 00:02:32.827 Hajo de Reijger: Could be. 00:02:33.617 --> 00:02:34.196 I don't know. 00:02:35.857 --> 00:02:36.266 No idea. 00:02:36.477 --> 00:02:38.066 What's the story with the couch, though? 00:02:38.397 --> 00:02:40.677 I kind of, I think I missed it. 00:02:40.733 --> 00:02:43.773 Daryl Cagle: Well, he kind of has sex with couches. 00:02:43.820 --> 00:02:44.100 Hajo de Reijger: What? 00:02:44.410 --> 00:02:45.420 Daryl Cagle: This is a rumor. 00:02:45.780 --> 00:02:53.045 It's as untrue as the eating cats and dogs, but, uh, but we enjoy it. 00:02:53.575 --> 00:02:57.911 I mean, we've all been drawing cats and dogs, sometimes the rumors are just fun. 00:02:57.965 --> 00:02:58.185 Ed Wexler: Yeah. 00:02:58.265 --> 00:02:58.975 That's a fun one. 00:02:59.001 --> 00:03:01.961 Hajo de Reijger: it's a crazy, crazy rumor, right? 00:03:02.162 --> 00:03:03.271 Having, I mean, 00:03:03.951 --> 00:03:06.951 Daryl Cagle: If you have a particularly attractive couch, I don't know. 00:03:07.595 --> 00:03:09.341 So here you have, the milk carton. 00:03:09.341 --> 00:03:10.492 Melania's missing. 00:03:10.512 --> 00:03:12.991 She hasn't been coming to, Trump events. 00:03:13.487 --> 00:03:14.497 Talk about this one, Ed. 00:03:14.987 --> 00:03:17.127 Milt Priggee: It's a great caricature of Melania. 00:03:17.217 --> 00:03:17.867 I love it. 00:03:18.247 --> 00:03:19.136 Daryl Cagle: It is. 00:03:19.987 --> 00:03:20.357 Ed Wexler: Thank you. 00:03:20.367 --> 00:03:22.346 I was working with the height of the milk carton there. 00:03:22.987 --> 00:03:24.646 And it sort of went together. 00:03:25.056 --> 00:03:26.547 You know, so I took that as a cue. 00:03:26.947 --> 00:03:29.967 Daryl Cagle: You know, I don't mind that she doesn't show up. 00:03:30.287 --> 00:03:32.770 She's not really under any obligation to show up. 00:03:32.770 --> 00:03:35.970 it's not one of the things I've been jumping on. 00:03:36.065 --> 00:03:37.115 Let her not come. 00:03:37.198 --> 00:03:38.578 Milt Priggee: But it's worth mentioning. 00:03:38.655 --> 00:03:39.095 Ed Wexler: Yeah. 00:03:39.095 --> 00:03:39.985 Daryl Cagle: I guess so. 00:03:40.455 --> 00:03:43.715 Ed Wexler: At the time, the week I did this, there were a number of people 00:03:43.715 --> 00:03:46.005 asking where's, where's Melania been, so. 00:03:46.175 --> 00:03:47.455 Daryl Cagle: Yeah, I've heard a lot of that. 00:03:47.455 --> 00:03:49.475 Ed Wexler: She doesn't, she doesn't help him by, you know, she never 00:03:49.475 --> 00:03:51.292 has anything interesting to say. 00:03:51.327 --> 00:03:54.067 Hajo de Reijger: And it's not the best, the best marriage they have also. 00:03:54.237 --> 00:03:55.943 So maybe they're, they're in a fight. 00:03:55.943 --> 00:03:59.853 Ed Wexler: I wonder how Melania feels about, um, what's 00:03:59.853 --> 00:04:01.403 this new one's name, Loomer? 00:04:01.498 --> 00:04:02.568 Milt Priggee: Oh, Laura Loomer. 00:04:02.928 --> 00:04:03.298 Ed Wexler: Yeah. 00:04:03.558 --> 00:04:05.418 they're spending a lot of time together. 00:04:05.515 --> 00:04:07.105 Daryl Cagle: She's a pretty crazy one. 00:04:07.285 --> 00:04:08.355 Ed Wexler: She's, she's nutty. 00:04:08.422 --> 00:04:08.682 Daryl Cagle: Here. 00:04:08.692 --> 00:04:12.638 You've got a Trump campaigned in free fall The hair is great on this one. 00:04:12.898 --> 00:04:15.228 Ed Wexler: You know, cause he's got such a complex hairdo. 00:04:15.353 --> 00:04:19.913 You know, and it's got to be long in some areas and even longer in other 00:04:19.913 --> 00:04:22.643 areas to, to swoop around the way, 00:04:22.683 --> 00:04:25.553 Daryl Cagle: you know, he got a haircut for the debate and looked a lot better. 00:04:25.873 --> 00:04:26.393 Ed Wexler: Yeah. 00:04:26.493 --> 00:04:27.303 Daryl Cagle: Did you notice that? 00:04:27.483 --> 00:04:29.483 Ed Wexler: Did he, did he still have the orange makeup? 00:04:29.603 --> 00:04:30.353 I think so. 00:04:30.543 --> 00:04:31.163 Daryl Cagle: Yeah. 00:04:31.223 --> 00:04:33.543 Ed Wexler: I want, what is, doesn't anybody talk to him? 00:04:33.660 --> 00:04:36.390 Milt Priggee: The only people that talk to him are people that 00:04:36.520 --> 00:04:38.900 feed him what he wants to hear. 00:04:40.440 --> 00:04:41.760 He's, he's in a bubble. 00:04:41.770 --> 00:04:46.350 He's in a bubble that's, that's floating around and, and he doesn't realize 00:04:46.360 --> 00:04:50.753 how bad it is because he has people feeding him misinformation because 00:04:50.753 --> 00:04:52.373 they want to stay on the good side. 00:04:52.480 --> 00:04:55.425 Daryl Cagle: I'm going to speak in Trump's behalf, I think he 00:04:55.425 --> 00:04:57.305 probably looks worse without it. 00:04:57.358 --> 00:05:02.988 he's probably very, very pale pink pallor washed out and, much more 00:05:02.998 --> 00:05:05.098 elderly looking without the orange. 00:05:05.148 --> 00:05:08.897 And, he probably has to have it that heavy in order to cover that up. 00:05:08.897 --> 00:05:10.637 Hajo de Reijger: Could be any other color, then. 00:05:10.767 --> 00:05:12.617 Ed Wexler: Yeah, why not something a little more natural? 00:05:12.687 --> 00:05:16.117 Daryl Cagle: Whatever it is, he needs a pretty thick foundation, I think. 00:05:16.117 --> 00:05:19.820 So here you got Trump dancing with Victor Orban. 00:05:19.820 --> 00:05:21.670 Ed Wexler: He keeps referring to Orban. 00:05:21.720 --> 00:05:23.250 He mentioned Orban's name. 00:05:23.530 --> 00:05:25.570 I think it was just yesterday again. 00:05:25.603 --> 00:05:29.597 Daryl Cagle: Trump has a lot in common with the right wing in Europe. 00:05:29.657 --> 00:05:34.907 They've got kind of a long list of, Issues, led by stop all the immigrants 00:05:34.907 --> 00:05:40.247 that matches and they have kind of the same authoritarian tendencies. 00:05:40.297 --> 00:05:41.667 there's a commonality to them. 00:05:41.667 --> 00:05:43.987 It's like Trump isn't an oddball. 00:05:43.987 --> 00:05:45.097 He's part of a 00:05:45.150 --> 00:05:46.600 Ed Wexler: he wants to be one of those guys. 00:05:46.870 --> 00:05:49.260 Daryl Cagle: Well, Hajo, you've got a lot of that going on in the 00:05:49.260 --> 00:05:51.456 Netherlands with the crazy right wing. 00:05:51.456 --> 00:05:52.900 Hajo de Reijger: But it's worldwide, right? 00:05:52.900 --> 00:05:55.670 It's, you got it in, uh, in every part of the world. 00:05:55.710 --> 00:06:00.300 It's, these big men with lots of self confidence who are very right wing and 00:06:00.300 --> 00:06:02.267 have crazy hair and it's everywhere. 00:06:02.267 --> 00:06:02.861 It's, uh. 00:06:02.908 --> 00:06:03.738 Weird phenomenon. 00:06:03.775 --> 00:06:05.885 so we have Wilders, it's the right wing. 00:06:06.220 --> 00:06:09.045 Ed Wexler: Is Orban, does Orban, uh, is he mass. 00:06:09.045 --> 00:06:09.765 Deportation. 00:06:10.185 --> 00:06:10.215 Mm. 00:06:10.425 --> 00:06:11.565 Does Orban do any of that? 00:06:11.615 --> 00:06:11.885 Hajo de Reijger: Yeah. 00:06:12.065 --> 00:06:14.470 Orban is very anti, anti-immigrant. 00:06:16.455 --> 00:06:19.895 Daryl Cagle: Another thing they do is kiss up to the dictators. 00:06:19.975 --> 00:06:20.255 Yeah. 00:06:20.635 --> 00:06:23.135 All of them seem to want to kiss up to the dictators. 00:06:23.195 --> 00:06:27.145 They seem to have this, , this thing in their nature that those are their guys. 00:06:27.185 --> 00:06:28.325 Hajo de Reijger: They like strong men. 00:06:28.398 --> 00:06:30.478 Well, strong men, strong weird men. 00:06:30.518 --> 00:06:32.688 Daryl Cagle: So Milt, we're going to move to you. 00:06:32.688 --> 00:06:33.858 Here. 00:06:33.858 --> 00:06:35.988 You've got Trump holding up the newspaper. 00:06:35.988 --> 00:06:37.058 Trump defeats Trump. 00:06:37.058 --> 00:06:39.318 Just, uh, tell us about this. 00:06:39.488 --> 00:06:39.698 Milt Priggee: Yeah. 00:06:39.698 --> 00:06:42.378 I thought, I thought he was going to lose. 00:06:42.518 --> 00:06:47.620 So, I got that famous, uh, photo there of, uh, Who was, that was Truman 00:06:47.640 --> 00:06:49.727 holding up the Chicago Daily Tribune. 00:06:49.727 --> 00:06:56.553 and so I, I had thought for sure Hillary was going to win and, um, She didn't and 00:06:56.660 --> 00:06:59.103 Daryl Cagle: I picked this because it's kind of evergreen you have 00:06:59.103 --> 00:07:04.787 retired which still makes me cry Um, I know you're always welcome to come 00:07:04.797 --> 00:07:05.377 Milt Priggee: back. 00:07:05.557 --> 00:07:10.990 It was a forced retirement I gave it 44 years looking for a paper that 00:07:10.990 --> 00:07:15.637 would uh, support me and I found out that I was searching for a unicorn 00:07:15.637 --> 00:07:17.257 something that just didn't exist. 00:07:17.267 --> 00:07:17.557 So 00:07:17.557 --> 00:07:21.217 Daryl Cagle: yeah, that doesn't doesn't work anymore Milt, you've been drawing 00:07:21.217 --> 00:07:26.467 cartoons since 1978 For decades in the Spokesman Review in Spokane, Washington, 00:07:26.467 --> 00:07:28.327 and you have won a ton of awards 00:07:28.403 --> 00:07:32.733 Milt Priggee: just all over the place Yes been been very lucky in that aspect. 00:07:32.743 --> 00:07:35.393 So i've been uh, been having lots of fun, especially with 00:07:35.393 --> 00:07:40.573 CagleCartoons.Com You know you guys uh printed just about everything like 00:07:40.708 --> 00:07:42.828 Daryl Cagle: I didn't ever kill a cartoon from you. 00:07:43.018 --> 00:07:43.798 Milt Priggee: Sure you did. 00:07:44.018 --> 00:07:45.168 Oh, misspellings. 00:07:45.408 --> 00:07:46.128 No. 00:07:47.108 --> 00:07:48.498 Daryl Cagle: I did kill cartoons. 00:07:49.548 --> 00:07:50.248 Milt Priggee: Just one. 00:07:50.418 --> 00:07:51.358 You just one. 00:07:51.778 --> 00:07:56.155 You did one Obama won the second one, his second election. 00:07:56.475 --> 00:07:56.735 Yeah. 00:07:56.785 --> 00:08:01.892 I drew a cartoon, uh, just showing a scorecard and at the top it said, uh, 00:08:03.522 --> 00:08:04.782 Daryl Cagle: yeah, I, I killed 00:08:05.072 --> 00:08:05.692 the n word. 00:08:05.692 --> 00:08:06.532 Milt Priggee: But that's okay. 00:08:06.532 --> 00:08:10.692 I, uh, on the, uh, social media, I saw the n word used with 00:08:10.692 --> 00:08:13.548 Obama immensely, immensely, 00:08:13.638 --> 00:08:14.908 and so it's out there. 00:08:14.908 --> 00:08:16.858 It's out there in social media. 00:08:16.858 --> 00:08:20.825 And so, that's, that was the, to me, that was the obvious cartoon. 00:08:20.825 --> 00:08:23.335 So I understand. 00:08:23.335 --> 00:08:25.915 I understand that, you know, editors are not going to go for it. 00:08:25.945 --> 00:08:28.625 And so I just, uh, I let the chip, I just do. 00:08:28.958 --> 00:08:30.838 John Fischetti was my mentor. 00:08:30.848 --> 00:08:34.678 He told me you can't please everybody every day with every cartoon, so don't 00:08:34.678 --> 00:08:38.748 even try, just draw what makes you happy and let the chips fall where they may. 00:08:38.777 --> 00:08:42.807 you know, when you, when you, you know, killed that one, I, I understood. 00:08:42.817 --> 00:08:43.969 So, and we move on. 00:08:43.969 --> 00:08:45.699 Daryl Cagle: You know, there are things I kill. 00:08:45.719 --> 00:08:47.129 I killed quite a few. 00:08:47.129 --> 00:08:51.049 cartoons during COVID where the conservative cartoonists were 00:08:51.049 --> 00:08:55.722 promoting, um Ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine and singing the 00:08:55.722 --> 00:08:57.802 praises of how effective they are. 00:08:57.969 --> 00:08:59.992 you know, there are, things that I kill. 00:09:00.242 --> 00:09:01.962 I kill anti-Semitic cartoons. 00:09:02.002 --> 00:09:03.062 Those come in from world cartoonists. 00:09:04.009 --> 00:09:04.869 Milt Priggee: understandable. 00:09:05.189 --> 00:09:07.022 Hajo de Reijger: It must be difficult to decide. 00:09:07.022 --> 00:09:09.172 Which cartoon is okay and which is, 00:09:09.202 --> 00:09:11.692 Daryl Cagle: I figured, uh, you know, generally, you know, Well, 00:09:12.082 --> 00:09:15.752 everybody we have we can trust, except for one cartoon with Milt. 00:09:16.162 --> 00:09:20.942 Milt Priggee: Yes, well, I drew, cartoons for Cagle Cartoons for 20 years. 00:09:21.352 --> 00:09:25.952 And there was one, just only one, that was rejected. 00:09:25.952 --> 00:09:28.272 So, you know, understandable, uh, you know. 00:09:28.315 --> 00:09:32.865 You gotta do what you gotta do and, uh, support whatever you decide, Daryl, so. 00:09:32.925 --> 00:09:34.415 Daryl Cagle: Oh, well, you're a gentleman, Milt. 00:09:34.649 --> 00:09:38.779 So, here you've got Trump in the mask as Jim Carrey. 00:09:38.779 --> 00:09:42.209 Milt Priggee: Yeah, I just, I love, uh, I love movies and I love movie 00:09:42.209 --> 00:09:46.375 references and, you know, when I'm watching and listening to the news. 00:09:46.399 --> 00:09:50.309 A lot of these references just pop in my mind and I see them as the 00:09:50.309 --> 00:09:54.139 obvious cartoon and I just want to draw them as fast as I can, get 00:09:54.139 --> 00:09:55.799 them out there before anybody else. 00:09:56.749 --> 00:09:59.279 So nobody accuses me of copying them. 00:09:59.320 --> 00:10:01.200 Daryl Cagle: Cartoonists do accuse each other of things. 00:10:02.530 --> 00:10:04.524 Okay, here you got, Trump like Superman. 00:10:04.524 --> 00:10:07.014 And you know, some of these right wing guys have been drawing him 00:10:07.044 --> 00:10:08.694 like Superman in superheroes. 00:10:08.694 --> 00:10:09.647 And, 00:10:09.707 --> 00:10:10.577 Hajo de Reijger: I saw that, yeah, 00:10:10.600 --> 00:10:14.394 Daryl Cagle: and his reality, he is really looking quite elderly now. 00:10:14.774 --> 00:10:15.574 Milt Priggee: Oh yeah, he is. 00:10:15.574 --> 00:10:17.264 He's, he's the old guy now. 00:10:17.360 --> 00:10:21.260 Now that Biden's out, this is just a quick comparison cartoon. 00:10:21.470 --> 00:10:27.010 Um, I, I do this quite often, just to, uh, point out the, the obvious, uh, 00:10:27.060 --> 00:10:30.350 cause then you can also compare them and that makes a point right there. 00:10:31.020 --> 00:10:32.340 Daryl Cagle: Hajo, we move on to you. 00:10:32.350 --> 00:10:33.810 Here's your nice Trump circus. 00:10:33.810 --> 00:10:34.200 This is 00:10:34.200 --> 00:10:35.190 Hajo de Reijger: very nice. 00:10:35.310 --> 00:10:37.270 It's a, an old one already. 00:10:37.330 --> 00:10:38.910 I think, yeah, it was. 00:10:38.930 --> 00:10:40.220 Daryl Cagle: Oh, it's an evergreen. 00:10:40.280 --> 00:10:41.360 Hajo de Reijger: Yeah, probably. 00:10:41.580 --> 00:10:46.610 I'm not sure from when it was, but, um, Well, it was, it was really a circus 00:10:46.610 --> 00:10:48.720 when he first came to, uh, to office. 00:10:48.784 --> 00:10:50.124 Daryl Cagle: His tie is wonderful. 00:10:50.194 --> 00:10:51.334 Hajo de Reijger: It's always a good thing, right? 00:10:51.334 --> 00:10:52.294 The tie of, Trump. 00:10:52.294 --> 00:10:53.254 He's got so many things. 00:10:53.254 --> 00:10:54.814 He's got this crazy hair. 00:10:54.862 --> 00:10:56.212 And it's, and it lies, 00:10:56.252 --> 00:10:56.812 Ed Wexler: and it's color coded. 00:10:57.812 --> 00:10:58.592 Right, Hajo? 00:10:58.612 --> 00:10:59.472 He's color coded. 00:10:59.499 --> 00:11:00.459 He's got the yellow hair. 00:11:00.522 --> 00:11:00.822 Hajo de Reijger: Yeah. 00:11:00.869 --> 00:11:02.999 Ed Wexler: Blue suit, white shirt, red tie. 00:11:03.259 --> 00:11:03.539 Hajo de Reijger: Yeah. 00:11:04.369 --> 00:11:06.369 Milt Priggee: Hajo, that's a beautiful cartoon. 00:11:06.609 --> 00:11:07.279 Thank you very much. 00:11:07.279 --> 00:11:07.839 And overgreen. 00:11:08.039 --> 00:11:09.289 That's Evergreen, 00:11:11.309 --> 00:11:14.899 that'll be, that'll be good till, you know, the day he dies. 00:11:15.959 --> 00:11:19.575 It's always, it's a three ring circus and he's the center 00:11:19.625 --> 00:11:21.935 attraction on each circus ring. 00:11:21.945 --> 00:11:22.255 Hajo de Reijger: Yeah. 00:11:22.305 --> 00:11:23.155 It's all about him. 00:11:23.155 --> 00:11:23.415 Right. 00:11:23.845 --> 00:11:24.155 Daryl Cagle: Yep. 00:11:24.485 --> 00:11:24.705 Yeah. 00:11:24.715 --> 00:11:28.855 Well, you drew the Twitter bird and that, that was, that's dead now. 00:11:28.975 --> 00:11:29.405 Hajo de Reijger: That is. 00:11:29.405 --> 00:11:29.605 Yeah. 00:11:29.605 --> 00:11:30.065 Milt Priggee: Okay. 00:11:30.115 --> 00:11:30.325 Hajo de Reijger: Yeah. 00:11:30.475 --> 00:11:30.735 Yeah. 00:11:30.735 --> 00:11:31.030 Yeah. 00:11:31.054 --> 00:11:32.384 Daryl Cagle: Almost an evergreen. 00:11:33.117 --> 00:11:34.377 Here's one that's not too old. 00:11:34.417 --> 00:11:36.647 You've got Trump and Biden golfing. 00:11:36.700 --> 00:11:37.510 That's very nice. 00:11:37.510 --> 00:11:38.800 Hajo de Reijger: They both got their challenges, right? 00:11:39.027 --> 00:11:39.767 Daryl Cagle: They do. 00:11:40.200 --> 00:11:42.590 I'd like to know what is wrong with Biden. 00:11:42.617 --> 00:11:45.627 my wife keeps saying that he's got Parkinson's. 00:11:45.714 --> 00:11:46.104 Hajo de Reijger: Could be. 00:11:46.284 --> 00:11:46.554 Yeah. 00:11:46.564 --> 00:11:47.004 It looks like. 00:11:47.004 --> 00:11:47.824 Milt Priggee: Yeah. 00:11:48.284 --> 00:11:51.624 Yeah, he's moving so stiffly. 00:11:51.694 --> 00:11:53.444 I mean, even turning his head. 00:11:53.624 --> 00:11:57.914 I mean, he's, it just befuddles me that, you know, they just should just 00:11:57.924 --> 00:12:01.867 come right out and say it instead of just, denying it and stuff. 00:12:01.877 --> 00:12:05.447 Daryl Cagle: I noticed when he comes down the stairs from the airplane, he looks 00:12:05.447 --> 00:12:07.457 like he's very concerned about falling. 00:12:07.497 --> 00:12:08.687 Hajo de Reijger: He's very fragile. 00:12:08.727 --> 00:12:09.067 Yeah. 00:12:09.067 --> 00:12:09.477 Ed Wexler: He's very 00:12:09.737 --> 00:12:09.867 brittle. 00:12:09.867 --> 00:12:10.277 Yeah. 00:12:11.167 --> 00:12:16.077 Milt Priggee: He's 80, but he looks, he's acting 90. 00:12:16.077 --> 00:12:19.774 Ed Wexler: The, the accelerated aging, when he came out to debate Trump, I 00:12:19.774 --> 00:12:23.244 couldn't believe, you know, that was when I first realized it was a big problem. 00:12:23.464 --> 00:12:23.664 Hajo de Reijger: Yeah Yeah. 00:12:24.029 --> 00:12:24.814 Yeah. 00:12:25.094 --> 00:12:28.494 Daryl Cagle: Well, that was the revelation for, for the whole country, 00:12:28.494 --> 00:12:30.964 you know, well, not for the whole country, for the ones that weren't 00:12:30.964 --> 00:12:32.424 on Fox hearing that every day. 00:12:32.424 --> 00:12:34.204 Hajo de Reijger: It's just the right moment, though, don't you 00:12:34.214 --> 00:12:39.089 think, to, to take, to choose Kamala for, the presidency? 00:12:39.115 --> 00:12:43.535 Milt Priggee: I gotta say that this is a great cartoon. 00:12:43.745 --> 00:12:44.775 Hajo de Reijger: Well, thank you. 00:12:45.085 --> 00:12:51.995 Milt Priggee: Number one, number one, no balloons and no labels anywhere. 00:12:52.055 --> 00:12:56.795 Just visual images tell the story, you know, from A to Z. 00:12:57.005 --> 00:12:58.335 And here's the other thing. 00:12:58.345 --> 00:13:01.705 It's just, it's a comparison cartoon between the two. 00:13:02.255 --> 00:13:08.365 You're also making a point with the American, the United States 00:13:08.365 --> 00:13:13.465 flag, you know, uh, you know, tied up there also, you know, 00:13:13.465 --> 00:13:15.085 it's, it's, you show it's broken. 00:13:15.085 --> 00:13:18.335 You see, it's, you show them they're trying to, you know, somebody's tied it 00:13:18.335 --> 00:13:23.130 together, you know, so there's, this is, this is probably the best, Comparison 00:13:23.130 --> 00:13:27.877 cartoon I've ever seen because you get you're making a point about the country 00:13:28.347 --> 00:13:31.097 And the two leaders all at the same time 00:13:31.127 --> 00:13:32.007 Hajo de Reijger: A lot's 00:13:32.007 --> 00:13:32.667 happening there. 00:13:32.717 --> 00:13:33.277 Yes, true 00:13:33.967 --> 00:13:34.757 Daryl Cagle: We all love you. 00:13:34.757 --> 00:13:35.007 Hajo. 00:13:35.027 --> 00:13:35.797 Hajo de Reijger: Oh, yeah 00:13:36.657 --> 00:13:36.877 Milt Priggee: I 00:13:36.937 --> 00:13:37.837 I love you. 00:13:37.837 --> 00:13:37.967 Hajo. 00:13:38.067 --> 00:13:40.627 Oh, and I especially love this cartoon. 00:13:40.627 --> 00:13:43.127 This is this it doesn't get any better than this 00:13:43.727 --> 00:13:46.837 Daryl Cagle: so Hajo, this is a wonderful cartoon. 00:13:46.837 --> 00:13:51.567 I should say that, um, we did a podcast before this that was 00:13:51.567 --> 00:13:54.117 our most popular ever podcast. 00:13:54.127 --> 00:13:55.772 We got over 300, 000 views. 00:13:55.922 --> 00:13:58.182 thousand people to look at this podcast. 00:13:58.492 --> 00:14:03.752 And, uh, I think that's all because of this wonderful Adams family, which was 00:14:03.752 --> 00:14:06.062 just, uh, it's just, it's just wonderful. 00:14:06.272 --> 00:14:10.472 And, um, I hate it that Pence has gone now because now this isn't an 00:14:10.482 --> 00:14:12.472 evergreen and we don't have a good Lurch. 00:14:12.482 --> 00:14:12.822 Hajo de Reijger: Yeah. 00:14:13.332 --> 00:14:13.722 True. 00:14:13.722 --> 00:14:14.212 Yeah. 00:14:14.592 --> 00:14:16.262 Yeah, that's that's the shame. 00:14:16.262 --> 00:14:16.522 Yeah 00:14:17.542 --> 00:14:18.732 Milt Priggee: I guess hyo hits it 00:14:18.952 --> 00:14:19.712 out of the park. 00:14:19.752 --> 00:14:20.142 Look at that. 00:14:20.152 --> 00:14:20.922 No labels. 00:14:20.922 --> 00:14:21.712 No balloons. 00:14:21.742 --> 00:14:22.482 Nothing to us. 00:14:22.492 --> 00:14:22.772 Daryl Cagle: It's 00:14:22.772 --> 00:14:23.832 hilarious 00:14:23.912 --> 00:14:24.172 Ed Wexler: And that's the 00:14:24.232 --> 00:14:24.602 best Eric 00:14:24.762 --> 00:14:24.912 Trump 00:14:25.473 --> 00:14:28.900 Milt Priggee: It's funny, and it's animated, it makes a point, and everybody 00:14:28.900 --> 00:14:33.640 fits there, except for the Pence, but still, it's a, it's a great cartoon. 00:14:33.790 --> 00:14:36.630 Daryl Cagle: Although it was a good Pence at the time, and, and it's 00:14:36.630 --> 00:14:39.150 just that Pence is gone, and the rest of the family is still there. 00:14:39.360 --> 00:14:42.500 But each one of them fits, each of those characters, which is 00:14:42.500 --> 00:14:44.150 what makes it all extra funny. 00:14:44.660 --> 00:14:46.220 Milt Priggee: Yeah, oh yeah, it's beautiful. 00:14:47.280 --> 00:14:47.530 Hajo de Reijger: Thanks. 00:14:47.530 --> 00:14:51.718 The funny thing is that I put it online, of course, and it's 00:14:51.738 --> 00:14:55.588 also just a still one, a cartoon. 00:14:55.698 --> 00:15:00.892 And that one is doing actually much better than the animated one, even on Twitter 00:15:00.892 --> 00:15:06.095 So we were also talking about animated cartoons and if they have a future, but 00:15:06.175 --> 00:15:10.635 I don't really see it happening because I put those two Online and, uh, and the 00:15:10.635 --> 00:15:15.005 one that is, uh, it's a still one gets shared more than, this animated one. 00:15:15.105 --> 00:15:20.335 Milt Priggee: Newspapers have a business model now is, is of liquidation. 00:15:20.365 --> 00:15:22.095 They are no longer competing. 00:15:22.115 --> 00:15:26.155 They're no longer investing to stay ahead of the curve. 00:15:26.735 --> 00:15:30.655 They are now, they realize that they're in a losing game. 00:15:30.655 --> 00:15:33.685 So now they don't want to create and compete. 00:15:33.785 --> 00:15:37.425 What they want to do is save what they believe they have. 00:15:37.478 --> 00:15:40.228 The reason Newspapers are going out of businesses. 00:15:40.228 --> 00:15:42.888 They believe they have no competition. 00:15:42.992 --> 00:15:46.005 But problem is they have more competition now. 00:15:46.005 --> 00:15:49.445 And this has been going on ever since the telegraph came in, which then 00:15:49.695 --> 00:15:51.995 came the radio and then came the TV. 00:15:52.235 --> 00:15:53.845 And now we have the internet. 00:15:54.005 --> 00:15:59.115 And and everybody is electronically getting their news from all these 00:15:59.135 --> 00:16:04.205 electronic digital sources and and they're not picking up the newspaper. 00:16:05.240 --> 00:16:07.000 And and so so that's it. 00:16:07.240 --> 00:16:09.420 They had an opportunity. 00:16:09.810 --> 00:16:14.275 Daryl Cagle: Okay, so here we have Adam Zyglis and, both Taylor Swift and Dick 00:16:14.295 --> 00:16:17.055 Cheney have endorsed Kamala Harris. 00:16:17.305 --> 00:16:19.845 And that's the tortured poets department for Harris and the 00:16:19.845 --> 00:16:21.665 torture department for Harris. 00:16:21.925 --> 00:16:23.555 And I think that's pretty funny. 00:16:23.807 --> 00:16:24.287 Hajo de Reijger: Yes. 00:16:24.737 --> 00:16:25.067 Ed Wexler: Absolutely. 00:16:25.160 --> 00:16:25.790 Adam's great. 00:16:25.843 --> 00:16:26.353 Hajo de Reijger: Clever, eh? 00:16:26.441 --> 00:16:26.681 Yeah. 00:16:27.718 --> 00:16:28.068 Daryl Cagle: Hajo. 00:16:28.085 --> 00:16:32.402 Here is your, Holland compatriot, Jos Collignon, go in peace. 00:16:32.402 --> 00:16:33.899 Your sins are forgiven. 00:16:34.139 --> 00:16:39.899 2024 Candidate Trump talks to President Trump 2025. 00:16:39.959 --> 00:16:41.879 This is a pessimistic cartoon. 00:16:42.059 --> 00:16:43.529 I guess he's pardoning himself. 00:16:43.679 --> 00:16:43.889 Hajo de Reijger: Yeah. 00:16:44.720 --> 00:16:46.490 Daryl Cagle: There's been a lot of talk about him pardoning 00:16:46.490 --> 00:16:47.240 himself. 00:16:47.267 --> 00:16:49.527 Hajo de Reijger: Yeah, well, the only one he has to deal 00:16:49.527 --> 00:16:51.327 with is himself the whole time. 00:16:51.327 --> 00:16:54.190 And he thinks he's the most important person in the world, so. 00:16:54.234 --> 00:16:58.434 Who else can, can give him, forgive, forgive him, so, yeah. 00:16:59.454 --> 00:17:03.154 , Daryl Cagle: Jos is another story that makes me cry, because he was laid off 00:17:03.164 --> 00:17:05.554 from his job, and he's retired now, too. 00:17:05.654 --> 00:17:05.954 Hajo de Reijger: Yeah. 00:17:06.699 --> 00:17:08.529 No, he's, uh, he's all right with it. 00:17:08.549 --> 00:17:12.869 I talked to him and he said it didn't happen in a nice manner, the 00:17:12.869 --> 00:17:14.890 layoff, but, he's happy with it. 00:17:14.890 --> 00:17:17.919 And he's got a house in France and he's, uh, he's retiring. 00:17:18.259 --> 00:17:20.099 Ed Wexler: That farm looks like a wonderful place. 00:17:20.229 --> 00:17:21.259 It probably is. 00:17:21.259 --> 00:17:21.719 Yeah. 00:17:22.129 --> 00:17:23.789 Daryl Cagle: He lives well and artfully. 00:17:23.969 --> 00:17:24.479 Hajo de Reijger: Yeah. 00:17:24.639 --> 00:17:29.909 Daryl Cagle: So here's RJ Mattson and he's drawing Trump getting his alert 00:17:29.919 --> 00:17:33.682 about, they're eating dogs and they're eating cats, which is funny that that 00:17:33.692 --> 00:17:35.632 would come up as an alert on his phone. 00:17:35.754 --> 00:17:40.234 Milt Priggee: That's a great cartoon. 00:17:40.674 --> 00:17:43.924 Daryl Cagle: Here's Adam Zyglis with the Cowardly Lion candidate. 00:17:44.124 --> 00:17:45.014 I think that's fun. 00:17:45.226 --> 00:17:49.656 Trump's position on debating Kamala, that's after the debate cartoon, now 00:17:49.656 --> 00:17:51.216 he's, now he's hiding from the audience. 00:17:51.922 --> 00:17:52.232 Ed Wexler: Love it. 00:17:53.152 --> 00:17:53.932 A funny drawing. 00:17:54.339 --> 00:17:56.969 Daryl Cagle: Dave Whamond, she's trying to get another debate 00:17:56.979 --> 00:17:58.299 and he's saying no, no, no. 00:17:58.299 --> 00:18:01.589 I, I think that's pretty illustrative of the news. 00:18:01.992 --> 00:18:02.092 Ed Wexler: Yeah. 00:18:02.172 --> 00:18:02.603 Milt Priggee: Wow. 00:18:02.946 --> 00:18:03.226 Hajo de Reijger: love 00:18:03.226 --> 00:18:03.935 it. 00:18:03.936 --> 00:18:04.376 Wow. 00:18:04.696 --> 00:18:07.386 Daryl Cagle: Trump debating Kamala and he says, and then you have to turn black. 00:18:07.386 --> 00:18:11.196 And she says, and then you have to turn orange, which is, uh, true. 00:18:11.284 --> 00:18:15.307 Here is a combo, Titanic and Hindenburg cartoon. 00:18:15.327 --> 00:18:18.967 And I love Titanic and Hindenburg cartoons. 00:18:18.997 --> 00:18:21.167 Milt Priggee: Yes, everybody's done the Hindenburg. 00:18:21.187 --> 00:18:26.827 Yes, everybody's done the Titanic, but this is the very first time I've seen 00:18:26.827 --> 00:18:30.147 them both together in one cartoon. 00:18:30.208 --> 00:18:32.058 And that's what makes it better. 00:18:32.088 --> 00:18:32.428 I mean, 00:18:32.538 --> 00:18:33.358 Daryl Cagle: it is nice. 00:18:33.358 --> 00:18:35.298 And it's look at all the rats jumping off. 00:18:37.738 --> 00:18:41.678 Milt Priggee: You guys, Ed, Hajo, have you ever seen these two, 00:18:41.718 --> 00:18:44.058 Hajo de Reijger: uh, A combination of the two? 00:18:44.138 --> 00:18:44.428 Ed Wexler: No. 00:18:44.868 --> 00:18:46.968 It's cool putting the two disasters together. 00:18:46.968 --> 00:18:49.344 It's always great when you combine two things. 00:18:49.848 --> 00:18:52.018 Hajo de Reijger: It's too bad, I cannot do it anymore now. 00:18:52.028 --> 00:18:52.718 It's been done. 00:18:52.778 --> 00:18:53.368 Daryl Cagle: Comrade 00:18:54.196 --> 00:18:57.286 Ed Wexler: It's so imitating when Trump does that when he calls her that. 00:18:57.343 --> 00:18:58.533 Putin's buddy, you know. 00:18:58.534 --> 00:18:59.033 Yeah. 00:18:59.034 --> 00:19:01.584 Milt Priggee: Yeah, that's when they know that they're losing. 00:19:01.624 --> 00:19:05.404 When they pull out the communist card, they start throwing that around. 00:19:05.450 --> 00:19:10.170 they've lost it, and they're going back to their old, tropes and using that because 00:19:10.170 --> 00:19:12.540 they don't have anything else to use. 00:19:12.570 --> 00:19:13.940 So they do that. 00:19:14.004 --> 00:19:15.934 Hajo de Reijger: yeah, you would think it gets old, right? 00:19:15.934 --> 00:19:17.220 But it obviously doesn't. 00:19:17.290 --> 00:19:18.900 It's, uh, they still use it. 00:19:19.230 --> 00:19:21.170 Milt Priggee: It works for the old people. 00:19:21.550 --> 00:19:25.850 Daryl Cagle: So this one comes from Angel Boligan in Mexico, draws for the 00:19:25.850 --> 00:19:28.100 El Universal newspaper in Mexico city. 00:19:28.200 --> 00:19:32.837 And this was a, assassination cartoon, Trump contemplating his ear. 00:19:32.914 --> 00:19:35.740 And, I like this, but I didn't quite get it. 00:19:35.770 --> 00:19:37.500 What do you, what are your comments on this? 00:19:37.530 --> 00:19:38.670 Ed Wexler: Not getting it either. 00:19:38.694 --> 00:19:41.324 Is that blood dripping from the ears of the letter A? 00:19:41.530 --> 00:19:43.610 No, it's dripping from the ear. 00:19:43.680 --> 00:19:43.800 The 00:19:43.800 --> 00:19:44.650 Daryl Cagle: letter A. 00:19:44.694 --> 00:19:46.644 Ed Wexler: You see that in the upper left corner? 00:19:46.684 --> 00:19:47.164 Daryl Cagle: Oh, I see. 00:19:47.614 --> 00:19:49.214 Why is there a letter A there? 00:19:49.474 --> 00:19:52.614 Oh, I think that's, that's the bullet hole that's dripping blood. 00:19:53.364 --> 00:19:54.254 At the very top. 00:19:54.254 --> 00:19:55.154 You see a little dot. 00:19:55.154 --> 00:19:55.544 Yeah. 00:19:55.650 --> 00:19:57.774 Hajo de Reijger: I think he's, he's showing his, 00:19:57.774 --> 00:20:02.884 Daryl Cagle: he he's got, he's got a tiny little, little, injury on the ear, 00:20:02.934 --> 00:20:07.604 but then further, he's cut off his ear to show you the tiny little injury. 00:20:07.604 --> 00:20:10.151 Ed Wexler: I like the drawing. 00:20:10.151 --> 00:20:11.641 Milt Priggee: Hey, here it is. 00:20:11.661 --> 00:20:12.291 Here I am. 00:20:12.531 --> 00:20:13.401 Try again. 00:20:13.881 --> 00:20:16.491 Ed Wexler: I guess technically you can say I took a bullet to the head, 00:20:16.981 --> 00:20:18.431 but he didn't even get a scratch. 00:20:19.281 --> 00:20:20.351 Hajo de Reijger: How is his ear now? 00:20:22.031 --> 00:20:22.801 Is it perfect? 00:20:22.801 --> 00:20:23.421 This is perfect. 00:20:23.981 --> 00:20:24.301 Yeah. 00:20:24.741 --> 00:20:26.681 Milt Priggee: I'd like, there should be an investigation. 00:20:26.681 --> 00:20:27.711 Where's the scar? 00:20:27.921 --> 00:20:28.231 Yeah. 00:20:28.271 --> 00:20:29.131 Isn't there a scar? 00:20:29.503 --> 00:20:31.963 Daryl Cagle: You guys are so unsympathetic here. 00:20:32.013 --> 00:20:35.603 I mean, you would expect that that would be a contemplative moment. 00:20:35.613 --> 00:20:41.346 He's contemplating his, being vulnerable and his humanity and 00:20:41.556 --> 00:20:44.826 everyone was thinking that he might come out softer after that because 00:20:44.826 --> 00:20:46.626 he's had this contemplative moment. 00:20:46.626 --> 00:20:48.816 and he didn't, and that was disappointing. 00:20:48.953 --> 00:20:50.683 I think that's more the point of it. 00:20:50.683 --> 00:20:54.283 I, would, have some fatalistic concerns and worries. 00:20:54.283 --> 00:20:58.203 If I had a close brush with being shot, whether it happened to hit me or not. 00:20:58.266 --> 00:20:59.906 and it's a bad for the country thing. 00:21:00.326 --> 00:21:03.466 So, uh, we should have some sympathy here. 00:21:03.583 --> 00:21:05.913 Hajo de Reijger: Yeah, but I think that's what also what this cartoon is about. 00:21:05.913 --> 00:21:11.776 He's, he's, he wrote a cut of his ear to show us what had happened to him, right? 00:21:12.255 --> 00:21:14.035 Ed Wexler: He cut off his whole ear to show the little 00:21:14.058 --> 00:21:15.998 Hajo de Reijger: To show us, how bad he is injured. 00:21:16.061 --> 00:21:19.431 Ed Wexler: That's actually a very good caricature of him. 00:21:19.431 --> 00:21:19.951 It's a good one. 00:21:20.001 --> 00:21:21.401 Daryl Cagle: Well, this one got us talking. 00:21:21.443 --> 00:21:22.923 Here is, Kamala. 00:21:22.943 --> 00:21:26.536 The Democrats are raising her like, the flag on Iwo Jima. 00:21:26.673 --> 00:21:27.643 Ed Wexler: I like that idea. 00:21:27.863 --> 00:21:29.563 It's another thing that we all draw. 00:21:29.603 --> 00:21:32.033 We could do that with the Titanic and the Hindenburg. 00:21:32.253 --> 00:21:32.483 Yeah. 00:21:33.383 --> 00:21:37.313 Daryl Cagle: This one I thought was kind of funny this is Christo Komarnitsky in 00:21:37.603 --> 00:21:42.016 Bulgaria right after the assassination attempt and let's fix this and put 00:21:42.016 --> 00:21:43.946 another Hitler bandage on his nose. 00:21:43.946 --> 00:21:44.856 I think that's funny. 00:21:45.086 --> 00:21:45.416 It's funny. 00:21:45.426 --> 00:21:46.276 Yes Yeah 00:21:47.481 --> 00:21:50.771 Milt Priggee: Yeah, and it's, and it's poignant and it may, and it has a great 00:21:50.781 --> 00:21:56.088 message and the second bandaid under the nose is trying to cover up the 00:21:56.088 --> 00:22:02.261 Hitler mustache, but yet it says Hitler and even the mustache now is white. 00:22:02.325 --> 00:22:05.135 So, you know, it has so many you, you presume 00:22:05.155 --> 00:22:08.085 Daryl Cagle: that he had the Hitler mustache underneath that bandage. 00:22:08.085 --> 00:22:09.335 That's going to get it covered up. 00:22:09.398 --> 00:22:09.668 He's 00:22:09.668 --> 00:22:09.918 Milt Priggee: right. 00:22:09.918 --> 00:22:12.568 Because JD saying here, let's fix this. 00:22:12.615 --> 00:22:13.505 Daryl Cagle: So try it. 00:22:13.505 --> 00:22:13.935 This is cute. 00:22:14.095 --> 00:22:17.605 This is one of the things that gets the people of the right most angry. 00:22:17.638 --> 00:22:20.828 Uh, when you complain about them, threatening democracy, they come 00:22:20.838 --> 00:22:22.778 back with your calling Trump Hitler. 00:22:22.778 --> 00:22:23.708 And that's worse. 00:22:23.758 --> 00:22:23.978 Ed Wexler: I don't know. 00:22:23.978 --> 00:22:25.068 It's more and more appropriate. 00:22:25.103 --> 00:22:29.863 Where do I put my baggage with Kamala's far left record baggage? 00:22:29.943 --> 00:22:34.043 So, another thing they talk about all the time is Kamala flip flopping. 00:22:34.283 --> 00:22:34.863 Wait a minute, go 00:22:34.903 --> 00:22:35.213 Milt Priggee: back. 00:22:35.233 --> 00:22:37.093 What baggage does Walz have? 00:22:37.165 --> 00:22:40.275 Daryl Cagle: No, this is Kamala's baggage bag. 00:22:40.295 --> 00:22:44.145 Oh, Waltz doesn't have any place for his baggage because of all her baggage. 00:22:44.245 --> 00:22:47.075 Milt Priggee: But what wall, what baggage is Waltz have? 00:22:47.175 --> 00:22:51.721 He was a high school teacher and, and got into politics late. 00:22:51.841 --> 00:22:52.301 Daryl Cagle: I 00:22:53.121 --> 00:22:56.581 mean, you know, the list of things they say about him. 00:22:56.811 --> 00:22:59.241 Ed Wexler: It's his military record is the only thing they say, isn't it? 00:22:59.331 --> 00:23:04.035 when they complain about him, him, calling himself a command master sergeant 00:23:04.035 --> 00:23:08.285 instead of just a master sergeant because he retired as a master sergeant 00:23:08.285 --> 00:23:11.701 and not a command master sergeant, and they complain about the way he 00:23:11.701 --> 00:23:16.555 handled the riots in Minneapolis, and Oh, what else do they complain about? 00:23:16.651 --> 00:23:19.821 Oh, they complain about, uh, we had a Big Rivers cartoon where 00:23:19.821 --> 00:23:21.671 he's giving tampons to everybody. 00:23:21.715 --> 00:23:25.675 he put tampons in, more than girls bathrooms for free 00:23:26.135 --> 00:23:27.325 for high school students. 00:23:27.915 --> 00:23:31.255 Uh, they're saying that he put them in the boys bathrooms, but I think what 00:23:31.265 --> 00:23:33.465 happened is they had unisex bathrooms. 00:23:33.465 --> 00:23:36.135 And so he put them in the unisex bathrooms as well. 00:23:36.161 --> 00:23:38.961 So boys can go in there and have tampons in the bathroom. 00:23:38.961 --> 00:23:40.501 And, uh, What else? 00:23:40.501 --> 00:23:43.361 He gave free lunches to all the kids in school. 00:23:43.401 --> 00:23:44.728 And, that's, uh, you know, 00:23:44.728 --> 00:23:45.648 Milt Priggee: that's baggage? 00:23:45.888 --> 00:23:47.268 Daryl Cagle: Communists would do that. 00:23:47.381 --> 00:23:49.131 what else, what other baggage they got? 00:23:49.273 --> 00:23:53.483 Anyway, it's stuff that we wouldn't see as baggage. 00:23:53.553 --> 00:23:53.963 Milt Priggee: Right. 00:23:54.180 --> 00:23:54.630 A little 00:23:54.783 --> 00:23:56.697 Daryl Cagle: here's, uh, Frank Hansen. 00:23:56.697 --> 00:24:00.457 he's got Vance saying, in case you're curious, sir, I 100 percent 00:24:00.477 --> 00:24:02.197 behind you dropping out too. 00:24:02.263 --> 00:24:02.733 That's cute. 00:24:02.733 --> 00:24:04.523 I like the way Frank Hansen draws. 00:24:05.123 --> 00:24:05.753 He's fun. 00:24:05.753 --> 00:24:07.993 He's got a very different look than the other cartoonists. 00:24:08.057 --> 00:24:08.757 Ed Wexler: Distinctive. 00:24:08.787 --> 00:24:10.967 Daryl Cagle: Here's Guy Parsons from Canada. 00:24:11.047 --> 00:24:11.987 I thought, this was cute. 00:24:12.037 --> 00:24:13.277 His trophy's on the wall. 00:24:13.277 --> 00:24:17.260 He's just thinking about putting Uncle Sam on the wall. 00:24:17.260 --> 00:24:18.880 he's got a concept for that. 00:24:19.123 --> 00:24:19.193 Concept? 00:24:19.467 --> 00:24:19.667 Hajo de Reijger: Yeah. 00:24:19.667 --> 00:24:21.192 Like the little telephone, yeah. 00:24:21.192 --> 00:24:21.537 Yeah, 00:24:22.003 --> 00:24:25.763 Milt Priggee: great composition, how he's got it going right across there. 00:24:26.150 --> 00:24:28.070 That could have turned out not as good. 00:24:28.180 --> 00:24:30.000 Daryl Cagle: Here's another assassination cartoon. 00:24:30.555 --> 00:24:32.995 I thought this was very nice, Michael de Adder. 00:24:33.045 --> 00:24:35.488 Milt Priggee: Ooh, yeah, 00:24:35.488 --> 00:24:35.598 Hajo de Reijger: yeah. 00:24:35.828 --> 00:24:36.738 Daryl Cagle: Liberty got it. 00:24:36.738 --> 00:24:36.908 yeah. 00:24:36.908 --> 00:24:39.658 And another assassination cartoon, Kinder, Gentle, or Trump. 00:24:39.718 --> 00:24:43.008 I thought this was very funny because of course he's got the angel 00:24:43.018 --> 00:24:44.188 and the devil on his shoulders. 00:24:44.218 --> 00:24:48.295 And it's the angel that would get shot by the bullet to the ear, not the devil. 00:24:48.305 --> 00:24:50.005 It's the devil that we're left with. 00:24:50.198 --> 00:24:54.188 And, he came out of, uh, out of that, everyone expecting him to be softer 00:24:54.188 --> 00:24:56.018 and gentler, and he was just as bad. 00:24:56.062 --> 00:24:57.182 I like this cartoon. 00:24:57.202 --> 00:24:57.812 Ed Wexler: Yeah, I do too. 00:24:57.812 --> 00:24:58.692 Milt Priggee: Is 00:24:58.692 --> 00:25:01.642 that, is that the Russian flag on Trump there? 00:25:01.642 --> 00:25:02.682 Hajo de Reijger: Oh, yes. 00:25:02.852 --> 00:25:03.442 Daryl Cagle: Yeah. 00:25:03.502 --> 00:25:03.892 Hajo de Reijger: Yeah. 00:25:03.935 --> 00:25:07.675 But actually, uh, Putin is now, uh, Okaying, uh, Kamala, right? 00:25:07.722 --> 00:25:11.562 Daryl Cagle: Oh, no, he really, he's, he's giving money to these 00:25:11.572 --> 00:25:16.422 far right, podcasters that are all about Trump this was by Nem0, very 00:25:16.742 --> 00:25:18.732 conservative cartoonist from Canada. 00:25:18.868 --> 00:25:21.855 this Trump in the matrix, he does dodge the bullets. 00:25:21.855 --> 00:25:22.325 Doesn't he? 00:25:22.495 --> 00:25:25.308 Yeah, he does have a little bit of blood on his ear. 00:25:25.308 --> 00:25:26.378 See it hitting his ear. 00:25:27.052 --> 00:25:27.342 Milt Priggee: Yeah. 00:25:27.542 --> 00:25:30.012 Hajo de Reijger: So his name is actually Nemo because that's 00:25:30.012 --> 00:25:31.157 also the name of the, of the 00:25:32.117 --> 00:25:34.197 Daryl Cagle: That's another pen name, like Rivers. 00:25:34.627 --> 00:25:36.397 Hajo de Reijger: No, but, I mean, that's also the name of the 00:25:36.397 --> 00:25:37.737 character in, this movie, right? 00:25:37.827 --> 00:25:38.937 Daryl Cagle: Oh, it is, it is. 00:25:38.967 --> 00:25:42.047 Well, that's a coincidence, because the cartoonist's pen name is Nemo. 00:25:42.177 --> 00:25:43.407 Cartoonists like these pen names. 00:25:43.407 --> 00:25:45.925 They like to draw under one name, like Hajo. 00:25:50.082 --> 00:25:53.832 The one name thing is it seems very European, you know, we, for us, 00:25:53.832 --> 00:25:58.867 one name is you have a Beyonce or Flipper or Lassie, we don't, we don't, 00:25:58.867 --> 00:26:03.307 we don't think of, one names that casually as you guys do in Europe. 00:26:03.467 --> 00:26:06.137 There's so many one named cartoonists in Europe. 00:26:06.187 --> 00:26:09.067 Ed Wexler: Well, you know, if you're known by one name, you're more famous. 00:26:09.107 --> 00:26:10.297 You don't need the two names. 00:26:10.427 --> 00:26:12.167 Hajo de Reijger: It's more easy as well. 00:26:12.237 --> 00:26:14.517 I got a difficult last name. 00:26:14.517 --> 00:26:16.873 So that's why I chose, just my first name. 00:26:16.972 --> 00:26:18.352 But you're right, actually, yeah. 00:26:18.352 --> 00:26:21.842 In Europe, there are more, uh, first names, I guess. 00:26:21.998 --> 00:26:24.278 Daryl Cagle: Well, I wouldn't call them first names. 00:26:24.658 --> 00:26:25.808 They're pen names. 00:26:26.408 --> 00:26:29.408 Lots of them just come up with brand new names. 00:26:29.502 --> 00:26:31.752 So, gentlemen, I think that's our last cartoon. 00:26:32.407 --> 00:26:33.737 Uh, do you have any more comments? 00:26:35.827 --> 00:26:38.407 Hajo de Reijger: No, well, I'm looking forward to the to the elections. 00:26:38.407 --> 00:26:42.167 I mean, uh, lots more lots more cartoons will be made probably 00:26:42.357 --> 00:26:44.997 Daryl Cagle: You guys have anything to say about Saint Just because we uh, 00:26:45.327 --> 00:26:49.778 We are all veterans of Saint Just and it is The only, uh, real, political 00:26:49.778 --> 00:26:51.742 cartoonists worldwide convention. 00:26:51.742 --> 00:26:52.482 I think there is. 00:26:52.482 --> 00:26:56.762 And it's, uh, it's a wonderful thing for our, our profession. 00:26:57.612 --> 00:26:58.452 Nothing else like it. 00:26:58.558 --> 00:26:59.088 Ed Wexler: I love it. 00:26:59.088 --> 00:27:02.288 Milt Priggee: It's, it's the greatest experience any 00:27:02.288 --> 00:27:05.655 cartoonist can ever experience. 00:27:05.655 --> 00:27:09.668 It is, it is like, you know, it is amazing. 00:27:09.668 --> 00:27:11.335 It's so wonderful. 00:27:11.335 --> 00:27:13.125 It's super surrealistic. 00:27:13.475 --> 00:27:15.795 You can't believe that's what's actually happening. 00:27:15.892 --> 00:27:18.805 Ed Wexler: It's a whole beautiful town and they, they love cartoonists. 00:27:19.080 --> 00:27:20.220 Hajo de Reijger: They really love cartooning. 00:27:20.280 --> 00:27:21.530 Ed Wexler: They really love cartoons. 00:27:21.550 --> 00:27:22.480 Wonderful people. 00:27:22.680 --> 00:27:25.190 Daryl Cagle: We don't experience love in America. 00:27:25.210 --> 00:27:27.120 Our email is all hate mail. 00:27:27.510 --> 00:27:30.927 And, the idea that we would go someplace where people like us, that 00:27:30.927 --> 00:27:32.597 just doesn't exist anywhere else. 00:27:32.645 --> 00:27:35.205 Milt Priggee: Well, it was a wonderful, wonderful experience. 00:27:35.235 --> 00:27:40.525 I, I wish that every political cartoonist kid could experience 00:27:40.545 --> 00:27:42.675 what we all have at St. 00:27:42.675 --> 00:27:43.085 Just. 00:27:43.095 --> 00:27:47.895 It was a wonderful, wonderful time, a dream come true situation. 00:27:47.950 --> 00:27:48.220 Hajo de Reijger: Yeah. 00:27:48.320 --> 00:27:49.240 Ed Wexler: Really nice. 00:27:49.320 --> 00:27:50.360 Milt Priggee: And the 00:27:50.360 --> 00:27:53.480 people, the community made it even that much better. 00:27:53.520 --> 00:27:58.330 They opened their houses and doors and put spreads of food and drink 00:27:58.330 --> 00:28:03.310 on the tables and just sharing, sharing the, the political love. 00:28:03.600 --> 00:28:03.970 Ed Wexler: Wonderful. 00:28:04.240 --> 00:28:05.350 Wonderful experience. 00:28:05.417 --> 00:28:08.627 Daryl Cagle: I will, thank you all for being here and. 00:28:08.679 --> 00:28:09.515 We'll do this again. 00:28:10.236 --> 00:28:11.956 And Milt, you don't have to be retired. 00:28:11.956 --> 00:28:13.166 You're welcome back anytime. 00:28:13.166 --> 00:28:15.256 Milt Priggee: I'm playing with that, all the time. 00:28:15.256 --> 00:28:16.246 I always think about it. 00:28:16.246 --> 00:28:19.736 because I watch the news and I, Oh, that'd be a great cartoon. 00:28:21.246 --> 00:28:24.206 Daryl Cagle: It's very frustrating not to be an editorial cartoonist. 00:28:24.206 --> 00:28:27.036 I, I can't imagine how most people in the world do it. 00:28:27.150 --> 00:28:27.550 Milt Priggee: Yes. 00:28:27.830 --> 00:28:28.200 Yes. 00:28:28.783 --> 00:28:29.493 Daryl Cagle: Okay. 00:28:29.493 --> 00:28:33.190 So remember to subscribe to the Caglecast wherever you're 00:28:33.190 --> 00:28:34.320 watching or listening today. 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